Why do people bash Minorities for Affirmative Action, When Nepotism favors Whites 91 percent of the time?
Can’t deny this. Barrack may have got a few bumps because of Affirmative Action but compared to Bush, his family connection is the direct reason for his success. I don’t agree much with social engineering but I think its unfair to discredit a person because one used a different technique than the other.
Obama was an honor student! Any poor white guy can also be an honor student.
I came from a poor,yet educated family. Both of my parents had degrees. My father used the GI Bill and worked several jobs and my mother’s education was paid for by her family. She was the first female with a 4 year degree.
As sometimes happens (even in the "old days") my parents were divorced…my mother became a single parent of 5 small children. Long story short, we ended up on welfare and living in a housing project with 90% (+/-) minorities. Poor, yes, but we had an advantage over most of our neighbors…education.
Because of my mother’s education, we all knew how to read and write (to a small degree) before we entered school! We started out ahead and stayed there. As soon as the littlest kids were into preschool my mother went to work, of course. Our black neighbors didn’t have the HEAD START that we did.We only stayed in the housing project for a few years and were back in neighborhoods with GOOD schools by the time the youngest entered kindergarten.
I can never forget the lessons I learned during those early years…many painful but many that have shaped my views on social and economic equality. I could no longer be a racist than be a Republican as long as they perpetuate these myths they hold so dear about equal opportunity existing in the USA.
We remained semi-poor throughout my school years, but high GPA’s allowed my brothers and sisters to choose whatever schools they wanted through scholarships and/or grants. My younger brother was able to choose between MIT, Harvard and Stanford among others due to his extra-curricular activities (Sports and Student Body Prez)! The rest of us weren’t interested in all that and went to State schools.
Affirmative Action as long as it is needed works. Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas are both great examples of it. The little bit of money WE paid for their schooling along with their own hard work ie studying in school, has reaped the TAX-PAYERS that paid the bill a very substantial dividend in the way of money returned back to us in the form of their increased taxes!
All tax-money spent on education is a good investment. The countries that spend the most on it have a higher rate of longterm growth than the ones that don’t. FACT!
Note: Conversely, I think that letting "legacy" kids into prestigious institutions can ruin them in the long run by lowering over-all standards.
I don’t think Bush should have been allowed to go to Yale if he couldn’t pass minimum requirements for that institution. Nor do I think Annapolis should have let McCain in for the same reason…He did not have the grades. (I also have a cousin and an Uncle who attended Annapolis)…Both of them should have had to prove their abilities by a higher GPA, in a smaller school for 2 years before being allowed in.
I would like to see our Democracy strive to become a MERITOCRACY and descend further into an ARISTOCRACY !!!
You are making way too much sense. Of course you are right. Hypocrites. Don’t you know that’s what they are.
Yes, we all are to a degree. But they take it to a higher and more hurtful level.
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And what does that do for the white guy without connections? Making things less fair is a curious way to make things fair..
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Shouldn’t the most qualified get the job regardless of skin color? I think so.
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They fail to acknowledge the fact that women have been the greatest benefactors of AA. I am glad to see that they have benefited.
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since when is this a Barak vs. Bush election?
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Affirmative action is cross-discrimination and suggests that minorities can’t get work on their own merits, therefore needing a helping hand. It would be nice if we were forward-thinking enough that these programs could be thrown out without any tears.
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Okay. So explain to me again for people like me who are white and have no connections how the majority of whites favor from nepotism. Thought so. All affirmitive action has done is give the majority the view that minorities are so dumb they need special help to succeed and it takes the rights away from the majority and gives to the minority. What a great system.
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How about both are flawed…
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Maybe b/c you don’t understand the term?
Nepotism is the showing of favoritism toward relatives and friends, based upon that relationship, rather than on an objective evaluation of ability, meritocracy or suitability. For instance, offering employment to a relative, despite the fact that there are others who are better qualified and willing to perform the job, would be considered nepotism.
As Pres Bush, was duly elected into his positions as Governor and President and not placed into power.
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Common sense
Because it is government that is discriminating based on color when it is Affirmative Action, and it violates, in my opinion, the concept of equal treatment. Above all else, government should be impartial.
Nepotism is done by individuals and violates no law. Bush went to private schools who have the flexibility to do as they wish with who they matriculate. Government schools should NOT have the freedom to discriminate.
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Because blacks aren’t supposed to have anything that could possibly counteract racism……it’s just not acceptable to have Affirmative Action to enable blacks to receive the SAME opportunities that whites have been receiving since day one…..and didn’t you know – this is all Obama’s fault, the nerve of this bi-racial man running for office in the great white country called the USA!!
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I am white I come from a middle class family. I am doing things on my own, I have no political connections tell me again how nepotism or affirmative action helps me.
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The problem with affirmative action is the US Constitution. Any action that favors one race over another is racism.
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Consider if you dare, the idea that while neither one is good, at least the nepotism you despise promotes people of a slightly higher quality. The people "bumped" up the food chain by programs like affirmative action don’t even rate as "trailer trash." They know nothing of finance and the handling of money and they make poor decisions at every turn AND, it dumbs down society. It’s just anothter form of communism/socialism. For those of us without benefit of the nepotistic connections, we get cast aside for those who are completely unqualified? Why then should we ever bother to try and succeed? Everytime we do succeed, it’s for nothing because our gains will be stripped from us and given to those who were not deserving. Before too long, there will be no middle class from whom you can tax the crap out of to support the lower class — we will have all given up. Programs like Affirmative Action also discredit anyone of color that HAS succeeded on their own merit. Their successes will forever be viewed through the lens of suspicion.
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Okay I’m white- my white co-workers and I are looking for those special opportunities that white people get that minorities don’t. We’re kind of at a loss
Surely one of you could list them for us- since it is such common knowledge that all white people are born with an advantage minorities don’t have.
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Obama was an honor student! Any poor white guy can also be an honor student.
I came from a poor,yet educated family. Both of my parents had degrees. My father used the GI Bill and worked several jobs and my mother’s education was paid for by her family. She was the first female with a 4 year degree.
As sometimes happens (even in the "old days") my parents were divorced…my mother became a single parent of 5 small children. Long story short, we ended up on welfare and living in a housing project with 90% (+/-) minorities. Poor, yes, but we had an advantage over most of our neighbors…education.
Because of my mother’s education, we all knew how to read and write (to a small degree) before we entered school! We started out ahead and stayed there. As soon as the littlest kids were into preschool my mother went to work, of course. Our black neighbors didn’t have the HEAD START that we did.We only stayed in the housing project for a few years and were back in neighborhoods with GOOD schools by the time the youngest entered kindergarten.
I can never forget the lessons I learned during those early years…many painful but many that have shaped my views on social and economic equality. I could no longer be a racist than be a Republican as long as they perpetuate these myths they hold so dear about equal opportunity existing in the USA.
We remained semi-poor throughout my school years, but high GPA’s allowed my brothers and sisters to choose whatever schools they wanted through scholarships and/or grants. My younger brother was able to choose between MIT, Harvard and Stanford among others due to his extra-curricular activities (Sports and Student Body Prez)! The rest of us weren’t interested in all that and went to State schools.
Affirmative Action as long as it is needed works. Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas are both great examples of it. The little bit of money WE paid for their schooling along with their own hard work ie studying in school, has reaped the TAX-PAYERS that paid the bill a very substantial dividend in the way of money returned back to us in the form of their increased taxes!
All tax-money spent on education is a good investment. The countries that spend the most on it have a higher rate of longterm growth than the ones that don’t. FACT!
Note: Conversely, I think that letting "legacy" kids into prestigious institutions can ruin them in the long run by lowering over-all standards.
I don’t think Bush should have been allowed to go to Yale if he couldn’t pass minimum requirements for that institution. Nor do I think Annapolis should have let McCain in for the same reason…He did not have the grades. (I also have a cousin and an Uncle who attended Annapolis)…Both of them should have had to prove their abilities by a higher GPA, in a smaller school for 2 years before being allowed in.
I would like to see our Democracy strive to become a MERITOCRACY and descend further into an ARISTOCRACY !!!
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